Monday, August 6, 2012

on Social Justice Warriors defending fake people and attacking real ones

Social Justice Warriors: Do Not Engage: on Social Justice Warriors defending fake people and attacking real ones

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  1. ACrackedMoon = RequiresHate = winterfox = pyrofennec = a bunch of other alts and sockpuppets. Kynn is a different person.

    ACM's life story, if taken at face value, is damning enough: she's an ethnically Chinese Thai from a family rich enough to send her to school in the UK. As a privileged scion of economic oppression, her boundless rage toward Whitey is thus basically self-hatred.

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  2. I like the implied characterization of requireshate as not a human. While there is obviously a person (or possibly more than one) behind it, the entity known as requireshate is clearly a schtick, and NOT a person.

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    1. Only problem with that is Kynn is a person. Hmm. But also a schtick. I dunno. The only time I want a gender-neutral pronoun is when dealing with pseuds--or as I'm now thinking of them, dogs on the internet.

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    2. "...dogs on the internet."

      Personally, I've got great affection for Peter Watts' term (that he specifically applied to ACM) -- "rabid animal."

      Because really, descriptions don't get much more accurate than that.

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  3. "ACM's life story, if taken at face value, is damning enough: she's an ethnically Chinese Thai from a family rich enough to send her to school in the UK. As a privileged scion of economic oppression, her boundless rage toward Whitey is thus basically self-hatred."

    Well-off and educated people from developing countries are somehow contemptible and feel no affects of prejudice? I think your insecurity (or ignorance) is showing.

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    1. Nice ad hominem, but nonsense. Thai Chinese constitute 12-14% of the population of Thailand, and control between 60% and 90% of the wealth of the country, depending on whose estimates you believe. This is a level of ethnic economic privilege comparable to that possessed by white South Africans. Add in the UK schooling (either her family is rich even by European standards, or she got a hell of a scholarship), her theoretical approach derived from American identitarianism, and her avoidance of issues of class privilege, and it's pretty easy to see.

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    2. When I think about preventing anonymous comments on my blog, it isn't because of spam. It's because of SJ Warriors. The 1% are the 1%, no matter where they're from, and I am not their ally.

      Or, what St. Rev said.

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    3. Interestingly a lot of South East Asian SJ Warriors active on the Internet (Requires Hate is one, there are others) are ethnic Chinese from Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, etc...

      Having actually spent some time in that part of the world, I know that the Chinese in those countries are disproportionately privileged and wealthy and also frequently prejudiced towards ethnic Thai, Malaysians, Filipinos, etc... Which makes their claim how oppressed they are pretty ridiculous, because they are among the privileged members of their societies.

      Sorry about the Anon comment, but I don't want the social justice brigade at my door.

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    4. PS: I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for Emma.

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    5. Second Anon, thanks for best wishes, and no worries about the anon comment. I put up with the spam that comes with anonymous commenting for the sake of folks like you who don't want to be hassled by electronic bullies.

      And, to the first Anon, while SJ self-righteousness is tiring, I want Warriors to be able to correct me easily. Facts rarely matter to people with simplistic world views, but they matter enormously to me.

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    6. ACM isn't Chinese or SE Asian or anything but white American anyways, so this is a lot like discussing how much of an Iowan William Shatner is because he plays Kirk.

      (Other have pointed out the large holes throughout ACM's statements that show very clearly they've never even been to Thailand, and can't be who they say they are. Which is incredibly inconvenient for the SJ brigade, so they choose to ignore who the person behind the blog really is.)

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  4. I shut down my computer last night and instantly thought 'I am a boor. No, more boorish than usual.'

    My best wishes and hopes for Emma, of course. I met you both, briefly as one does at book signing things, at Uncle Hugo's once (with, I think, Gordon Dickson) and found all involved marvelously personable and pleasant. In short, I like you both on the internet, in your books, and however slightly in person as well. I shall cross my fingers, that being the best I can offer in the way of prayer-like activities.

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    1. Thank you!

      Now I'm wishing we could do another signing with Gordy Dickson.

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